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| Quote Ellam="Ellam"www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12040/9392864/super-league-re-structure-outlined-ahead-of-the-2015-season
Sounds good, exciting times ahead for all the clubs.'"
the CC exemption is a nonsense, starves lower league clubs of potential big pay days, and the fact it's being brought in next season with no notice is unfair, maybe teams would have worked harder to finish top 8 with that kind of carrot dangled, maybe some clubs would have parted with poor coaches/results earlier. Finishing the 8 now means so much more than it did 24 hours ago.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"the CC exemption is a nonsense, starves lower league clubs of potential big pay days, and the fact it's being brought in next season with no notice is unfair, maybe teams would have worked harder to finish top 8 with that kind of carrot dangled, maybe some clubs would have parted with poor coaches/results earlier. Finishing the 8 now means so much more than it did 24 hours ago.'"
I'm sure the clubs have known about this longer than the fans.
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| And the dreadful Magic weekend remains. With the 2 points it brings potentially much more significant, are the fixtures going to be made with some attempt at fairness? Some fixtures are usually physically much more demanding than others, while some sides have had more than their fair share of soft opponents in the past. I wouldn't object to a random draw but can we be sure that the powers that be could be relied on not to favour (or disfavour) certain teams if they are creating the match ups?
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"And the dreadful Magic weekend remains. With the 2 points it brings potentially much more significant, are the fixtures going to be made with some attempt at fairness? Some fixtures are usually physically much more demanding than others, while some sides have had more than their fair share of soft opponents in the past. I wouldn't object to a random draw but can we be sure that the powers that be could be relied on not to favour (or disfavour) certain teams if they are creating the match ups?'"
For the sake of fairness it needs to be all derby/rival matches or a random cup draw for me. Personally I would prefer the random draw because I'm fed up with the amount of times we play Rovers these days. And next year we could meet even more! Throw in the pre-season friendly, a potential match up in the cup and the possibility of further face off's in the second half of the season once the top 8/bottom 4 split (at least one regular and a possible playoff/eliminator if in the same group) and we could end up with about seven matches against each other. It's ridiculous.
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| Except you can't have all derby fixtures. Beyond Hull/Dobbins, Wigan/Saints, Cas/Wakey and possibly Warrington/Widnes what else? Leeds/Shudders has never really been a derby fixture, though at this point in time it would be a tough rivalry. Salford and Cats - not even close though neither team fits in with any other.
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"Except you can't have all derby fixtures. Beyond Hull/Dobbins, Wigan/Saints, Cas/Wakey and possibly Warrington/Widnes what else? Leeds/Shudders has never really been a derby fixture, though at this point in time it would be a tough rivalry. Salford and Cats - not even close though neither team fits in with any other.'"
In which case it needs to be a random draw.
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| I'm confused already, it's the middle 8 I don't get am I reading right that the top 3 from the middle 8 are guaranteed super league then 4th and 5th playoff for the last super league spot so does that mean that if by some miracle the 4 championship clubs Finnish 1 to 4 then 3 of them will be promoted and 3 super league clubs will be relegated and then if the super league club loses the play off potentially 4 clubs could go down and 4 get promoted.
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| Quote Doc Brown="Doc Brown"In which case it needs to be a random draw.'"
A random draw would definitely be fairer but it wouldn't necessarily mean an easier game.
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| Quote BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE="BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE"I'm confused already, it's the middle 8 I don't get am I reading right that the top 3 from the middle 8 are guaranteed super league then 4th and 5th playoff for the last super league spot so does that mean that if by some miracle the 4 championship clubs Finnish 1 to 4 then 3 of them will be promoted and 3 super league clubs will be relegated and then if the super league club loses the play off potentially 4 clubs could go down and 4 get promoted.'"
I'm more confused about what strutchure is.
But yes theoretically that is correct.
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| Quote BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE="BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE"I'm confused already, it's the middle 8 I don't get am I reading right that the top 3 from the middle 8 are guaranteed super league then 4th and 5th playoff for the last super league spot so does that mean that if by some miracle the 4 championship clubs Finnish 1 to 4 then 3 of them will be promoted and 3 super league clubs will be relegated and then if the super league club loses the play off potentially 4 clubs could go down and 4 get promoted.'"
That's how it reads but do the clubs coming up have to meet the Super League criteria for grounds etc. Yes that old chestnut. Seem to remember a couple of teams missing out in the early years of Super League for this reason?
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| Quote BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE="BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE"I'm confused already, it's the middle 8 I don't get am I reading right that the top 3 from the middle 8 are guaranteed super league then 4th and 5th playoff for the last super league spot so does that mean that if by some miracle the 4 championship clubs Finnish 1 to 4 then 3 of them will be promoted and 3 super league clubs will be relegated and then if the super league club loses the play off potentially 4 clubs could go down and 4 get promoted.'"
You've got it right Ben. The top 8 are guaranteed their place in SL the year after but the bottom 4 compete with the Championship's top 4 for places in next seasons SL. Depending on how that goes then all 4 Championship sides could potentially be promoted and the 4 SL sides could be relegated.
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