to 2018....

Tell me I'm having a nightmare and it's not true. Please.

As I said on the other board, would much rather we had seen how the forthcoming season panned out first, but as we usually throw contract extensions about like nobody's business, this doesn't surprise me. Lets hope he has learnt his lessons from last season.

I think I just heard Saddened's head explode.

I personally would have waited until mid season and see how he's going .

Most people seem to agree that would have been very sensible.

He can only get better

St Helens RFL = The secret hand shake club

This has been happening for far too long now and its setting us back years.

Awful news

I loved KC as a player and is one of my all time favorite players but I've not been impressed with him as coach at all. Some of selections, tactics and post match interviews had left me frustrated last year.

I just think the job came to early for him by few years and it's like he's learning on the job and imo that's not good enough for a top club.

We should have brought a experienced coach in for two years after Brown went and then looked at KC. I don't know why mcmanus rushed in with KC, he was only 37 when took the job so plenty of time in the future.

Pretty depressing news, it confirms that it is jobs for the boys regardless of what happens.

Lets just hope that KC only appears to be clueless and will come good.

Otherwise it is mediocrity for the next few years.

I think mcmanus knew it might be tough few years with us having a rookie coach. Not many clubs would let a guy take over the reigning super league champions having never ever coached a team at any level at all.

People moan in football about managers not being given long enough in the job to put together a long term plan, and to instil their philosophy from top to bottom, so instead managers think about short term success to keep hold of their jobs. So I can see the sense in offering KC the extended contract.

It was probably too early to give KC the job, however he's got it now and we need to give him time to fulfil his potential like Anderson got at Huddersfield, like Radford at Hull who I believe will be very difficult team to beat this year.

Now that Cunningham's got a bit of job security, he 'might' give the players more freedom to express themselves.

Yeah yeah, sounds good. Or, is it because Keiron Cunningham is very cheap as coaches go. He's probably on a third of what an established NRL coach would command. He'll also quietly tow the line and won't risk anything. KC as a coach is pretty much the opposite to Ian Millward. He's pretty much the opposite to what a Saints coach should be.

The timing of this decision is just bizarre and totally proves my theory that McManus doesn't care one bit for winning trophies. He's not concerned with creating a winning side or attracting top players to enable the club to capitalise on the commercial benefits that being successful brings. Middle of the road is fine for him, no risk. If McManus was your work pension advisor he'd put everything in the lowest risk category until you die. You'd make £15 over the 50 years you work. Solid.

It might turn out to be a decent decision. But why not wait until August to see how its going before making the decision. He's not a coach with a CV so will have no NRL interest and the big clubs over here don't want him. Why not wait and see? There is a decent chance given our recruitment and how poor the style of play is that we'll be 7th or 8th after a few months with the crowds dwindling and he'll be sat on a longer contract than necessary.