Could have done without him being hit late as that cost us another bench spot, he doesn't have much luck with injuries. Dislocated shoulder sounds like a good while out.

Hoffman should have been binned for that, no doubt. Other than that I thought that Wigan were much cleaner than in the past, fair play to them.

Out for a long time with ACL injury, according to Saints Twitter.

I think that's months rather than weeks, isn't it? He had such a great opportunity to show the RL world what he is made of and one late tackle ruins it.

Wheeler or Wellens? Wheeler was treated for a shoulder injury on the floor and walked off okay. If it's him we've got the worst physio in the world?

Potentially season ending I'd suspect, by the tone of the sentence.

Wheeler? Surely he hasn't done his ACL and dislocated his shoulder, unless he is the most unlucky man in the world. Unless it is Wellens which would be more bad news.

AC injuries are a right pain in the chuff,had a couple myself back in the day,its going to be at least 3 weeks for Wheels probably mopre like 6 - 8 though realistically.The hit that took him out in my view was intentional,late and with the shoulder

Wheeler has the AC injury, Wellens has an ankle injury.

Decisive moment in the match for me. We completely lost the plot and our composure after the incident. If it were Pryce or Long this would be 7 page thread already.

Good luck to the lad, and a shame that a provocative lunge towards HIM rather than the BALL has hindered his development.

Ah, AC not ACL. That explains things. Hopefully it isn't too bad.

The Twitter report had AC on it. I've no idea what either injury means, except they are something to do with the shoulder!

ACL would be anterior cruciate ligament and around 8 months out, so I'm just glad it isn't that! (I thought initially it was Wellens that Carlos meant as he seemed to have a leg injury). Hopefully it'll be a standard recovery without an operation.