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Warrington fan here ... Just a personal opinion on clapping players ... I think over 40 years I have walked away from a ground without applauding the Warrington players off on very few occasions. They only time I personally believe you reserve the right not to applaud is when it is obvious that the team are not trying.
Other than that those players are putting their bodies on the line for your entertainment and enjoyment. It doesnt matter if you think they are good enough or the right player. Things go wrongI but if they give their best they should be applauded for it.
Happy clapping isn't about supporting the players on the pitch, it's about just going along with whatever the club decides - even if you believe it to be wrong.
It will always be wrong (imo) that the club has the resources to retain and strengthen the squad - but instead decides to follow the rules of the cap. Especially when the real reason we have a cap in the 1st place, is because other clubs got jealous of our success. Ultimately it's the Wigan fans that suffer because of it. Like I said however the fans are at the bottom of the list of priorities. It's like a badly run Labour run council, they'll do what they want and keep getting away with it. Why? Because they know some simpletons will just keep voting for them no matter what. what are you talking about we have retained French, Field, Wardle, Thompson, Eckersley, Forber, Marshall, Junior, Walters and so on, so most of the team are signed up to long(er) term deals. Now the different question to be asked, is that a good way to manage the team and does it impact on a players performance, when they arent playing for a new deal And, whilst many of us dont agree with the cap, are you suggesting that Wigan deliberately break it and get punished for doing that, thus points deduction or whatever sanction the RFL throw at us in your words, that is the thought of a "simpleton" Not only am I advocating that we break the cap, I'm also advocating that we do it in the most blatant and public way possible. I'm a firm believer that, what's good for Wigan is good for the game (not that I care about the game like). Let the RFL come after us too. We're not here to be friends. Danson is billionaire who owns a media group. If he wanted to, he could drown them in a PR sh** storm whilst tangling them up in litigation. If Wigan one of, if not the biggest club in the game, wanted to make life difficult - it wouldn't be hard. RL in the UK wouldn't last a decade without us and everyone knows it. Time to be more bullish and self-centred. If this season has proven anything, it's that the rest of the league and it's fans hate us. Why concern ourselves with what they want? I’m getting xxBrettKennyxx tin foil hat vibes off this poster. The whole Wigan are bigger than the game stuff though is next level. Break all the rules and then see how much you win…..truly bizarre. Assuming this is trolling at its worst or best, not really sure. This is coming from a guy who once said Singleton was better than Havard and Smith wasn't going to make it. Now that's top tier trolling right there. Wigan are, imo, bigger than the game. You'd think a guy from Wakefield, who supports the club would get the draw of it. I'll be really, really clear here - I want to see the club that I support be able to determine it's own destiny. I absolutely believe in the potential of this club, it's history and think it could be a major sporting brand. If, in theory, Danson ever had a vision to create the RL equivalent of the Galaticos and wanted to run a £10m playing budget then he should be able to do so. We shouldn't be cucking ourselves however and seeing good prospects like Hill walk away because we've been forced to choose between him and Junior. If the club can't afford him, or don't want him - that's another matter. We know that's not the case however. Hardly controversial stuff really is it? Unless you hate Wigan that is... Welcome back Brett. I see the time away has not made you any less militant or sensible. You want to create a super brand by destroying a sport….how does that work? Wigan win everything by 80 points each week see how quickly people continue to watch the sport. It’s absolutely ludicrous but I’d expect nothing less. May look back at my DMs from years ago for a chuckle if I still have them. | | |
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| Kings of Rugby:Jason65:Kings of Rugby:Jason65:Kings of Rugby:
If that's the case then slow cap for Radlinski.
Freshen things up - people are paying hard earned money to watch us win, not to see a load of kids or lads who are knackered.
Just make it happen, whatever it takes to make Wigan get 3 in a row.
I've never known a club that puts the wants of its fan base so low down on its agenda.
I have never known a club to win as many trophies as Wigan has in the history of RL,somebody must be doing something right but maybe it's not for everyone supporting the most successful club in RL. Keep happy clapping until the end. OH I will,Wigan have given me so much pleasure from Hanley/Edwards/Richards/Faz/Tomkins/Lockers etc etc that no other team could match that,so I will carry on supporting the greatest RL team of all time while you carry on bitching and whining about the current Champions and WCC holders at the same time. Good one. Says more about and your intelligence (or lack of it) than anything else. Absolutely nothing noble about being a happy clapping enabler. So you have decided that I and many others that do not agree with your insane ramblings of a troubled mind are lacking of intelligence,I would say every one of the replies that derided you statement (and the following ones) are far more intelligent than you are | | | |
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Jenna Brooks saying big news announced at Catalans tomorrow involving Wigan. Fingers crossed it's our rumoured game in Paris and not a Sam Tomkins style exit for one of our players.
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| Kings of Rugby:jonh:Kings of Rugby:MadDogg:
Firstly, any ethical issues aside - clubs can't break the cap even if they wanted to these days as it is live - the players wouldn't be registered to play. Secondly, are you aware that Wigan were recently the only club to vote in favour of scrapping the salary cap at a recent vote? It was voted down 11-1.
That answers all the arguments about the priorities of the other clubs then. They'd rather win a poor league, than play in a great one. And to think, actual fans of Wigan think we should just accept it. What's the point in having power if you aren't going to use it? Like I said, enjoy watching Wigan Globe Trotters if that’s your idea of fun. You make the most bizarre statements then accuse people of not responding then ignore the fact you look silly when they do and go on another mad train of debate. Very random indeed. You only find it bizarre because you don't agree with it. Or worse, you can't get accept I'm right. I've showed you one of the most profitable and biggest brands in world sport. You've decided, for some strange reason, they don't count. Madrid should be the absolute goal for every sporting club in the world. They produce world class players, sign top tier talent - all whilst making money hand over fist and doing what's right for them. Do you think they care that a team like Girona don't get to compete? You are getting yourself mixed in your own arguments. 1 - Saying Wigan should win every trophy and then saying we should intentionally break the cap (which would result in us winning no trophies) 2 - Using the Spain and Real Madrid example, without acknowledging that Spanish clubs can only spend what they earn (revenue). 3 - Stating the cap isn't working instead of saying "the cap isn't working as intended" or "the benefits of removing/increasing the cap would far outweigh those keeping it as it is" I am sure everyone agrees something needs to be done with the cap, a better tv deal, more academies/reserves, better promoting of the sport etc but you lose credibility when you use outlandish claims and examples. | | | |
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| nathan_rugby:Kings of Rugby:jonh:Kings of Rugby:MadDogg:
Firstly, any ethical issues aside - clubs can't break the cap even if they wanted to these days as it is live - the players wouldn't be registered to play. Secondly, are you aware that Wigan were recently the only club to vote in favour of scrapping the salary cap at a recent vote? It was voted down 11-1.
That answers all the arguments about the priorities of the other clubs then. They'd rather win a poor league, than play in a great one. And to think, actual fans of Wigan think we should just accept it. What's the point in having power if you aren't going to use it? Like I said, enjoy watching Wigan Globe Trotters if that’s your idea of fun. You make the most bizarre statements then accuse people of not responding then ignore the fact you look silly when they do and go on another mad train of debate. Very random indeed. You only find it bizarre because you don't agree with it. Or worse, you can't get accept I'm right. I've showed you one of the most profitable and biggest brands in world sport. You've decided, for some strange reason, they don't count. Madrid should be the absolute goal for every sporting club in the world. They produce world class players, sign top tier talent - all whilst making money hand over fist and doing what's right for them. Do you think they care that a team like Girona don't get to compete? You are getting yourself mixed in your own arguments. 1 - Saying Wigan should win every trophy and then saying we should intentionally break the cap (which would result in us winning no trophies) 2 - Using the Spain and Real Madrid example, without acknowledging that Spanish clubs can only spend what they earn (revenue). 3 - Stating the cap isn't working instead of saying "the cap isn't working as intended" or "the benefits of removing/increasing the cap would far outweigh those keeping it as it is" I am sure everyone agrees something needs to be done with the cap, a better tv deal, more academies/reserves, better promoting of the sport etc but you lose credibility when you use outlandish claims and examples. I'm not, you're just misunderstanding it. The Spanish league is an example a league, where despite all the power and trophies are being shared between two (maybe three) sides - the sport in that country continues to flourish. It's a proven example that having/wanting a competitive league, where the bottom side can beat the top side - doesn't need to be the north star that RL makes it out to be. It was a direct response to the posters who say that Wigan winning everything is bad for business. That argument is simply not true. The sport can still flourish (& has done previously), even when there's a big disparity in how competitive each side is. | | | |
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