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| After years of recruiting the wrong players the board admits it recruited the wrong coach and concludes it should have intervened more. 
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| There is nothing wrong with a "hands off" approach if you get the right person.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"After years of recruiting the wrong players the board admits it recruited the wrong coach and concludes it should have intervened more.
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Quote sally cinnamon="Warrington Wolves Chairman Stuart Middleton" After the completion of a thorough process we believe Daryl is the best man to take the club forward in 2022 and beyond.
His coaching philosophy and the brand of Rugby League he promotes is something that really appealed to us. The impact he has had at Castleford is very impressive, taking them from 12th to League Leaders in four years in a playing manner that was unrivalled in Super League.
His ability to improve players was also an attraction; under his guidance he’s helped to develop three players into Men of steel. We’ve got an exciting crop of youngsters emerging so we look forward to seeing how he helps shape and develop their game.”'"
Thorough process. All this blaming Powell doesn't sit nicely with me. Collective responsibility.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Thorough process. All this blaming Powell doesn't sit nicely with me. Collective responsibility.'"
Exactly.
When I first read the whole statement, my initial thoughts were I wonder what sort of dodgy hold Fitzpatrick has over the board, because he seems to be untouchable in their eyes.
Also, it completely reeks of a bunch of incompetents trying to chuck a convenient fall guy under a bus.
As with a lot of football and rugby club owners, I do wonder how these guys have managed to make so much money in business, when they run their clubs so badly.
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| I think this story on the BBC will potentially put off future applicants as it sounds like the board want a 'hands-on' approach going forward?
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| For a group of businessmen ,they don't seem to place a lot of importance on providing a product that will attract paying customers. Very poor if it is the board that has cocked up.
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"For a group of businessmen ,they don't seem to place a lot of importance on providing a product that will attract paying customers. Very poor if it is the board that has cocked up.'"
Could it be a genuine case of trying too hard? Blamed for apparent interfering, blamed for letting Karl loose with the chequebook, blamed for giving an experienced coach cart blanche and backing him in trying to change our culture.
Admittedly things haven't always gone as we/they would hope, mistakes have been made BUT 'shirley' we can't accuse them of not caring or trying to find a way for us to succeed and provide us with a team to be proud off, something we can get behind.
The search continues....
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| In my book, as Chairman and CEO you always hold yourself accountable, and take ownership for it. And that means publicly taking the flak when things go wrong. That's the difference between a true leader, and a simple 'manager'.
I like Middleton's passion and commitment, but I can't help feeling he should be stepping back and letting someone else steer this ship with his financial input, delegating to a proven CEO with no sentimental connection.
Since taking the reins, he's thrown the players under the bus first, then thrown Powell under the bus.
I'm absolutely indebted and hugely grateful for the amount of money he commits to the club, but a leader he is not, in my humble opinion.
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| I feel the public hanging, drawing and quartering of Powell serves no purpose other than to attempt to deflect criticism from the board of directors. They have made some repeated poor decisions now affecting the last 3 coaches.
Result = 1 pot in 10 seasons and counting ...
Tony Smith - in role too long. Should have gone after losing the first 6 games of 2017 and failing in the 3rd GF.
Steve Price - in role too long by by 2 years (should have gone when we blew out of the playoffs in 2019)
Daryl Powell - wrong fit - un moderated wrecking ball according to Middleton.
* If we had acted when we should have with Smith, we potentially could have had Holbrook before Saints. Instead we got Price 6 months later.
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| What are the board looking for though? What is the job spec and key defining attributes that they are looking for in order to know they have the right person next time?
I said the same at Powell’s appointment. We have flip flopped from overload attacking with Smith, to park the bus Price, to what was allegedly a “promote from within and develop the players we have” in Powell.
It’s been said a million times, but we don’t know what club we are. We’re “new money”. We have no etiquette, no legacy. We’re just buying the latest brand of fashion, which as fashion does, goes out of style as fast as it arrives. Saints are the complete contrast. They play the same way they have since the 90’s, and all the coach has to do is keep the engine ticking over and steer it in the right direction. There’s no rebuild, it’s just tinkering,
The club now need to map out the blue print, find out what good actually looks like, before appointing a coach. If that take 7 weeks, and Chambers and Marshall have a free hit at making a name for themselves, so be it. But we can’t get this wrong, and without knowing what you actually want, you’re just speculating again.
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| What I've really disliked about both Powell and price is that we have seen the team go on a good winning run playing aggressive rugby with some good expansive play and a great defensive line speed. We then lose a game and both coaches tried to go Conservative to get us back on track by grinding out a a win, totally abandoning what we were doing well to get the earlier wins.
Then after a few more narrow losses the team confidence is totally gone and they look like they've forgotten each others names and how to play rugby. We need a coach who doesn't bottle it and carries on playing the manner that has brought us success. We have looked like a team that is overcoached far too often, for far too long. The players don't look like they enjoy their trade and they really should, it's a great sport, we are a good club with great facilities and have a big fan base which is totally fed up and just desperate to have a team they can get behind.
Get this group enjoying rugby, simplify things, let them use and trust their abilities (drop mata'utia) and the results will come.
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