Just read the home truths on Salford. In a nutshell.....

When they moved into the AJ Bell break even was an average of 8000 fans, actual average has been 3365.....

Salford are let off the actual rental costs of the stadium and pay a much lower price but now face paying the actual full price if they were to stay from 2023.

2022 will however see central distributions to Salford (sky money) drop considerably. Staying means a massive increase in costs and debt.

All those interested in moving into the AJ Bell like Sale and the soccer club are committed to ensuring Salford's survival, they don't want to kill the club..

So Mr. Neville is keen to offer Moor Lane as an (well the only) option for Salford who say that if they play there (so it's not a "no"icon_wink.gif it will have to be part time.

Meanwhile a certain Mr, Beaumont may have a very very big smile on his face..................

It's not about league positions but more about stadiums.....

And dont forget the money.
Without enough of it, nobody can survive.

i was reading that as it was tweeted last night, i nearly fainted, its amazing that they've survived this long after moving there.

how the hell they "expected" 8k fans to just start turning up,

I tell you what, from the first plans that came out for their new stadium (remember that?) it has just slid from worse to worse.

Yet there are strong rumours around that they have signed one of your players, how do they afford him?

Oh I dunno.... weren't Wire averaging something like 4000 at Wilderspool before they moved to the shiny new HJ? It's amazing how winning multiple Grand Finals can add another 5-6000 to your fanbase.

You mean the lad on loan? Hardly gonna cost a packet if he's a fringe squad player and he'd partially be replacing Darcy Lussick who has left the club and won't have been on minimum wage.

And?



It's fine for "massive" clubs like Wire to mock Salford but let's be honest, without Mr Moneybags backing you you'd be in as much doo doo as clubs like Salford & Wakey are (sorry Wakey fans, not a dig!).

The fact you're dragging out news articles from the Salford Star pretty much sums you up..... it's a poxy rag with about as much credibility as the Sun or the Star.

I think we are talking about a different player here.

Not privvy to the financial side of our club, but I don't thing that we are financially in the doo doo as a lot of people outside of the club think, that's according to our CEO anyway apart from serviceable running costs, because we don't live above our means, the downside to that is we don't get to have any marquee players that's all.

i appreciate your need to defend your club, like a third rate vastman, but defending them blindly isn't correct.

however, i'll deal with your rebuttles in my next post. cos i think this deserves its own.

*clears throat*

WHAT GRAND FINALS?????

i get reminded on a daily basis on here, on facebook, on twitter that we've never won a (sl) grand final, so bit of a weird flex.

So, taking this at face value, in the final season at Wilderspool,2003 we averaged 6904,the year before was probably about 4k, if not less due to the state we were in, we didn't get to and win the challenge cup until 2009. 5 years later. our first play off win was in 2006, so you it had nothing to do with success.

In 2004, the first year at the halliwell jones, the average was 9880, and halfway through that year is when simon moran became majority shareholder. He Pays for the nice things, the extras but the stadium is self sufficient with plenty of non matchday income, that was crucial to the design of it, it had to pay for itself.

Why did that attendance increase? a combination of reasons, mainly the location of the stadium was within walking distance of about 60% of our season ticket holders (and lapsed members at that point) with good motorway links and close to a trains station, to make it easier for away fans, and we went down the family angle. Since the stadium plans went to planning enquiry we ramped up our community projects and were in schools all over warrington practically every day, building a new fan base, kids and their parents, we won the SL community club of the year award something like 4 times in a row over those 4/5 years, we put a lot of effort in.

We didn't just build a stadium and expect people to turn up.

Salford moved away from their walk up/hardcore supporter base, to a location thats a ballache to get to.


The location of the article is neither here nor there, the picture, the artist impression, was released by Salford City reds, this was there grand design, its a fantastic design, almost iconic, and at the time that's admirable, you couldn't possibly tell me with a straight face that you weren't disappointed with what you ended up with.

But hey, it's easier to hit out, then admit faults of our loved ones.