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| Bring back Sir Kev! Does anybody other than Brian Mac think Sinfield shouldn't be in the 17? Crazy.
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| unless he is injured, I can't see why we wouldn't want him the squad and on the field, if only for his organisational, game management and kicking skills
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| For me Kevin should start at loose forward, he might not be as quick off the mark but he still has great leadership qualities that other players simply don't have. I'm not saying we would have won any of the last games if he'd have started but we would have managed the games and short periods with those games much better. Especially at Huddersfield where some senior players couldn't put the game to bed earlier in the 2nd half, and today we would have gone in at half time leading. For me, BM is making a big mistake in not playing Kevin, fans will slowly turn against him and eventually would only end badly for him. He's mad not playing him whilst he's fit and raring to go. I don't think any other super league club would not play there club captain when fit, I know we are going to have to play next year without him, as we are without JP and possibly others, so why aren't the others been treated the same way, it's embarrassing, disrespectful and just doesn't make sense, but until the time comes when we have to play without him we have to have the best fit starting line up possible and I think that includes Kevin.
I would also like BM to come out publicly and say why he's not selected, him just saying he can't get him into the team doesn't make any sense when you're forced to add JJB and Kylie to the 19 man squad who are passengers in the squad and frequently injured.
Liverpool are going through a similar situation with Steven Gerrard and for the past few months been managing the games he plays and are quite rightly trying to get every last bit of energy, experience and influence out of him before he moves on, Leeds Rhinos should be doing the same with Kevin, because it will be all over far too quickly and the season will be over before we know it. We still might win the grand final but I think we have a better chance of doing with Kevin rather that without him.
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| sinny will be back in the 17
i don't believe that there is anything sinister in sinny's non selection thus far irrespective of what ever decisions have been made and by whom either prior or since his retirement announcement
i reckon that he is being held back at the minute,i believe that he will be selected to play when the big games come around
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| McGuire's dummy spit today will ensure that Sinny returns to the starting 13 next week in the halves. Sinfield and Sutcliffe starting will illustrate that McGuire's performance as skipper today was a disgrace.
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| That was horrendous at times today, yet so easy to fix. All it needs is a calming Influence who can use their head, a proper captain.
I think MCDermott has just gone back to his pig ignorant attitude of previous, and wanting to prove a point. A point he was wrong on.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"That was horrendous at times today, yet so easy to fix. All it needs is a calming Influence who can use their head, a proper captain.
I think MCDermott has just gone back to his pig ignorant attitude of previous, and wanting to prove a point. A point he was wrong on.'"
It started with his inexplicable (non) use of subs - Warrington?
McDermott has shown he is pretty stubborn at times....persisting where others would have long given up: Vickery; Burrow as starting hooker; Achurch as prop etc. It [uis[/u begining to look like another example of McDermott's pig headedness.
Nobody can convince me Sinfield is not still worth a place in the forwards ....certainly not where Burrow is preferred there. (can anybody suggest a more unlikely 'front rower' in the whole of RL history??) 
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| Disappointed he didn't play today, it would have been nice to show him our respects, been a fantastic servant to the game and I'm highly surprised to see him not in the team.
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| Quote nantwichexile="nantwichexile"It started with his inexplicable (non) use of subs - Warrington?
McDermott has shown he is pretty stubborn at times....persisting where others would have long given up: Vickery; Burrow as starting hooker; Achurch as prop etc. It [uis[/u begining to look like another example of McDermott's pig headedness.
Nobody can convince me Sinfield is not still worth a place in the forwards ....certainly not where Burrow is preferred there. (can anybody suggest a more unlikely 'front rower' in the whole of RL history??)
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I've yet to see anybody put up well constructed argument for his exclusion. It's just wrong on many levels and needs to rectified sooner rather than later, if not this could turn very sour, very quickly. I bet Saturday can't come quick enough for the Giants.
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| Maybe the reason is again the issue of whether Sinfield/McDermott feel like he's big enough size-wise to play back in the middle at loose. He did a couple of games back there but maybe didn't feel like he was capable of doing it weekly, which might mean it's a halfback spot or nothing.
He is smaller now than when he last played at loose and most teams do go for an extra big guy there now. during pre-season he'll been conditioned body-wise expecting to play the season as a halfback. Hopefully his non-selection is a plan to give him a few weeks off to help bulk up a bit to play in the middle of the pitch again.
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| With a better front-row rotation, Sinfield could quite easily play in the middle in the same way that O'Loughlin does for Wigan.
Problem is, Leeds have two props on their last legs (Peacock and Leuluai), one who is either fantastic or terrible (Cuthbertson) and one who is very, very ordinary (Singleton). Behind that, it's players out of position or kids.
Hence having a lighter loose-forward simply isn't an option, because the third man in that middle unit needs to be a bigger player like Delaney or JJB to cover the deficiencies in the front row.
If Leeds had front row options like Saints for example, then Sinfield could play a role at 13. As it is, he plays six or nothing in the current structure and McDermott has wedded himself to Sutcliffe and McGuire. These two are now basically undroppable, because there's no chance of McDermott ever admitting he got it wrong.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"With a better front-row rotation, Sinfield could quite easily play in the middle in the same way that O'Loughlin does for Wigan.
Problem is, Leeds have two props on their last legs (Peacock and Leuluai), one who is either fantastic or terrible (Cuthbertson) and one who is very, very ordinary (Singleton). Behind that, it's players out of position or kids.
Hence having a lighter loose-forward simply isn't an option, because the third man in that middle unit needs to be a bigger player like Delaney or JJB to cover the deficiencies in the front row.
If Leeds had front row options like Saints for example, then Sinfield could play a role at 13. As it is, he plays six or nothing in the current structure and McDermott has wedded himself to Sutcliffe and McGuire. These two are now basically undroppable, because there's no chance of McDermott ever admitting he got it wrong.'"
I don't believe Sinfield is incapable of playing 13 in the current structure, but even if we say he is then he's not so small he couldn't fit into today's structure at 9...defending next to the winger and making 3 tackles a game...and still be around to make smarter acting-half decisions, manage the game, the team and the referee, and reliably convert tries. All of that offers a lot more at the moment than the guy who got the shirt.
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