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| Good on them for giving him a bit more to do so that he doesn't have as much time free to be out getting himself into scrapes. And also the anger management course too. You never know - he might learn something and avoid finding himself in such a position, or at least reacting differently if he is in a similar spot in the future.
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| Zak worries me. He is immensely talented but now I see there were four juniors with him on this jaunt I am very concerned. There's a culture at this club that has been fostered over the years by the likes of Sinfield, JP, McGuire and JJB. That culture has been integral to our success. Zak brings a different culture, for all his talents.
I'm a cynical man and do not believe people can "change". The optimist in me would hope Zak changes his ways, signs a new contract and plays out his days with us. The realist in me thinks we might need to develop our next full back soon.
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Quote G1="G1"
I'm a cynical man and do not believe people can "change". The optimist in me would hope Zak changes his ways, signs a new contract and plays out his days with us. The realist in me thinks we might need to develop our next full back soon.'"
JP changed.
Or have a look at this really excellent Jason Robinson programme that's just aired for another example - https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/sports-li ... n-robinson
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I'm a cynical man and do not believe people can "change". The optimist in me would hope Zak changes his ways, signs a new contract and plays out his days with us. The realist in me thinks we might need to develop our next full back soon.'"
JP changed.
Or have a look at this really excellent Jason Robinson programme that's just aired for another example - https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/sports-li ... n-robinson
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| For the remainder of his contract.Makes me wonder if that will be the end of Zak at Headingley
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| personally i think after the world cup sending home and the latest incident i would be surprised if we dont lose him.yes his past has got him a bigger fine but anger management classes and community work is going a bit to far in my opinion and the other 4 get fined half a months wages. i think its a bit over kill by the club but as ive said this is ONLY MY opinion
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| Quote HAILESY="HAILESY"personally i think after the world cup sending home and the latest incident i would be surprised if we dont lose him.yes his past has got him a bigger fine but anger management classes and community work is going a bit to far in my opinion and the other 4 get fined half a months wages. i think its a bit over kill by the club but as ive said this is ONLY MY opinion'"
But then I guess ZH is a bit older and is in the more responsible position within the bigger picture of them all - ie. a regular starter and in / around the England team.
The anger management is not meant as a 'punishment' per se, the idea with such things is that they are preventative interventions rather than punitive - making sure he reacts differently and understanding the consequences of being unable to control his anger more, rather than just getting the red mist.
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| I agree with G1 on this. We had a brief encounter with this kind of thing with Thackray which probably contributed to the curtailing of Mike Ratu's career.
The last thing that the club needs at a time when the youth needs to step up, is poor discipline undermining their potential.
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| Quote lionarmour87="lionarmour87"For the remainder of his contract.Makes me wonder if that will be the end of Zak at Headingley'"
That was my initial thought when I read that.
I don't know what the current situation is between Zak and the club regarding his contract and a stay beyond 2016, but the club is right to make clear their high expectations on his behaviour. There are few clubs in the UK where an RL player can really achieve their potential and Leeds is undoubtedly one of those few. The club knows this and I suspect so does Zak. It then comes to do what sort of player Zak wants to be. If he wants to chase the money and live a lifestyle contrary to what the club expects, so be it.
If the club statement is true that Zak has actively asked for assistance, I'll happily give him the benefit of the doubt on that front.
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| GH will also be mindful of the infamous incident with Leeds United players all those years ago in City Square and all the bad publicity and how it was handled
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| Quote lionarmour87="lionarmour87"For the remainder of his contract.Makes me wonder if that will be the end of Zak at Headingley'"
I thought exactly the same reading that part, might be reading too much into the wording but it does make it sound like once it's up he's gone
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| There is a signed 5 year deal that was due to be announced just before all this happened. The wording of GH's statement does seem to hint that it may have been breached and can be torn up. I suspect the next few months will be a probationary period of sorts.
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