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| A year or three ago we had new neighbours move in opposite us . They kept coming over and asking my (then) 5 yr old lad to go with them for a walk in the woods with his puppy . This caused concerns . I rang the police , and within 20 mins we had two family liaison officers at our door . They could not tell us if there was anything to be concerned about , but they did say that they WOULD NOT say there was NOT a problem .
I had a word with the neighbours , and we have seen and heard very little from them until recent weeks . They have now started approaching my 5 yr old daughter and have been asking her if she wants to have a sleep-over at their house .
My gut feeling is that I should just burn them in their sleep . My sensible side tells me that I should use Sarah's Law and request information from the local police station . BUT .. I have been informed that Sarah's Law is a myth as it has not been passed by parliament .
Any advice as to what action I can (legally) take would be very much appreciated .
Am actually hoping Minty will reply to this post . She seems to have done her research , and be rather well informed and level-headed regarding most subjects .
No 'BURN THE PAEDOS' responses please .
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This Home Office page
www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-cent ... arah's-law
suggests that Sarah's Law was rolled out nationally last year, but not sure if it only applies to those "who have contact with children", whether that means just teachers, sports coaches etc or if it means anyone I don't know.
Either way id have thought your best bet would be to talk to someone at your local police station, ask them if Sarah's law applies in this case, and even if it doesn't you can tell them of your concerns.
It can be easy to fall into the tabloid trap into thinking everyone who doesn't do the "normal" thing is a danger in some way, but it does sound a bit odd, and if I were you I'd obviously keep my kids away from them
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This Home Office page
www.homeoffice.gov.uk/media-cent ... arah's-law
suggests that Sarah's Law was rolled out nationally last year, but not sure if it only applies to those "who have contact with children", whether that means just teachers, sports coaches etc or if it means anyone I don't know.
Either way id have thought your best bet would be to talk to someone at your local police station, ask them if Sarah's law applies in this case, and even if it doesn't you can tell them of your concerns.
It can be easy to fall into the tabloid trap into thinking everyone who doesn't do the "normal" thing is a danger in some way, but it does sound a bit odd, and if I were you I'd obviously keep my kids away from them
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| I've got 2 kids, 6 & 9, and it really is a shame that your first instinct isn't "what a lovely couple" but "there's something odd about these". I'd be thinking the same though. Is that because of the media hyping up the amount of paedophiles on the streets?
As a kid I played out probably from the age of 6. I also walked to school with my friends from a similar age. I've only allowed my 9 year old to start playing out in the past 12 months and I still drive him to school, about a mile away. Surely there's the same amount of "weirdos" on the street as there was 35 years ago? Is it just that we're now more aware of them?
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| The tabloid media in particular is massively guilty of whipping up hysteria.
There is far, far more danger of a child being abused in their own home by a relative or family friend than elsewhere.
If you have serious concerns, then you can go and speak to the police.
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11427787Sarah's Law explained.[/url
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| Quote BaldRick="BaldRick"Any advice as to what action I can (legally) take would be very much appreciated'"
How about talking to the people in question, telling them you find their approaches and behaviour towards your daughter inappropriate and ask them to stop, if after a few weeks they haven't adhered to your wishes then speak to the Police and make a formal complaint?, also document each conversation you have with them and they have with your child (or other family members).
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| Does you need an excuse to politely say no to an invitation from someone that you do not really know for your 5 year old to spend the night at their house?
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| Is a 'McCann's trying to steal a replacement' joke inappropriate'?
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| I'd go with the burning the approach, just in case.
Despite the tree huggers questioning your paranoia and cynicism, it is not normal to ask a 5 year to go for a walk in the woods without first establishing an almost-family relationship with the family first. Nor is it okay to ask a 5 year old to have a sleepover.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"How about talking to the people in question, telling them you find their approaches and behaviour towards your daughter inappropriate and ask them to stop, if after a few weeks they haven't adhered to your wishes then speak to the Police and make a formal complaint?, also document each conversation you have with them and they have with your child (or other family members).'"
... would seem a good place to start.
Although I couldn't argue with anyone who finds this couple's behaviour inappropriate at best and disturbing at worst.
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| I think you need to form your own judgement on the people. The behaviour sounds odd as you've described it, but if your neighbours were a nice, retired couple and your kids have shown interest in their puppy they may just be being friendly. It goes without saying, if in doubt play safe. Sounds like you do have doubts, so you should make written enquiries (so it can't be white-washed as easily if the people are "known"icon_wink.gif of whoever the competent authority is.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"I think you need to form your own judgement on the people. The behaviour sounds odd as you've described it, but if your neighbours were a nice, retired couple and your kids have shown interest in their puppy they may just be being friendly. It goes without saying, if in doubt play safe. Sounds like you do have doubts, so you should make written enquiries (so it can't be white-washed as easily if the people are "known"icon_wink.gif of whoever the competent authority is.'"
You need to re-read what the OP wrote.
The puppy was his sons and isn't part of the current issue.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"The tabloid media in particular is massively guilty of whipping up hysteria.
There is far, far more danger of a child being abused in their own home by a relative or family friend than elsewhere.
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Correct. But this is extremely strange behaviour, and although it's rare it does happen.
I have two kids and I don't know anyone who has had sleepovers even with their friends families at 5, let alone two fairly random adults. I personally don't think kids that young should have sleepovers, just me. And you are right, even if you "know" someone you don't really know them that well to trust your 5 year old with them overnight.
I would be very concerned about these people.
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